A tale of two widows

Various images of the book Widowed As F**k and its author Rosie Moss with Emma Charlesworth, author of Is Daddy Going to Be OK?

That poor woman, I can’t imagine what she’s going through.

This is my first memory of Rosie Moss. Someone I went to school with knew Rosie. She shared a post on Facebook about the fact that Rosie’s husband had gone scuba diving off the Kent coast and was now missing. Rosie had three small children. Like I say, I couldn’t quite imagine what she was going through.

This was in March 2018 and while the story stayed with me as one of those stories you read via Facebook, I can’t say that I really wondered what had happened to Rosie and her family. I had an eight-year-old at the time, I was going through therapy after a particularly bad few months and I had no way of knowing that mine and Rosie’s paths would cross in the future.

But just over two years later, people were having the same thought about me. That poor woman, I can’t imagine what she’s going through. I had so many people tell me that they couldn’t imagine what I was going through. Because I had officially joined the club that no-one wants to be a member of. Widowhood. And I joined this club at the age of 39 with a 10-year-old daughter in tow during a global pandemic. Let’s face it. If you’re going to join a club, you might as well do it with one heck of a story.

Around this time, I read another news article about Rosie. She was in a new relationship, and her partner had been hospitalised with COVID-19. Not the same hospital as my husband but one in Kent, nonetheless. Once again, I remember thinking that poor woman and the memories of all she’d gone through in 2018 came flooding back. But I was merely trying to survive my own world imploding. I didn’t have time to think about anyone else. I was just about managing to hold everything together for me and my daughter.

I subsequently joined the charity WAY Widowed and Young and began sharing our story more. I always adopted the mentality that if just one person could be helped by me telling it, that could only be a good thing and something positive to come out of the nightmare we were living.

And then Rosie’s name came into my orbit again. Via the podcast Widowed AF. This was a podcast with the intention of giving a voice to those who understood widowhood. As with WAY, it gave me the opportunity to listen to others who had gone through what I was now living through. A sense of camaraderie. A weird sense of belonging. The first episodes I listened to had me crying on the dog walks. They were just so relatable. I applied to be a guest, and my episode recording was scheduled for August 2023. Five years since Rosie had been widowed. Three years since I had.

Recording the episode was like chatting to an old friend. It was just so blinking easy. I think I waffled for close to an hour and a half. Due to Rosie’s experience during the pandemic (thankfully with a very different outcome to mine) it was an emotional episode too. But that’s the reality of our lives. Emotional.

Fast forward to 2024 and Rosie came with her family to support me at CharlieFest, the fundraising event I host in memory of my late husband. Wids in the wild if you like! A few months later my daughter and I went to Widstock, an event Rosie held for the whole community but in particular for those living the widowhood life. Both of us staying in touch during the periods in between. Because that’s the thing with this new life. People cross your path who you’re unlikely to have met otherwise. Even when you live just 30 minutes apart.

And then 2025 happened. The year I published my book, Is Daddy Going to Be OK?. The year, coincidentally, that Rosie was also writing a book. Due to some unforeseen circumstances, Rosie’s hit a slight delay, and I was able to introduce her to the wonderful team at Softwood Books who have been able to give so much guidance to both of us.

I recorded a Chatty AF episode with Rosie to coincide with my publication date. It was the first publicity that I did for my book, and I love the fact that it was not just with a fellow widow, but with Rosie. Someone who understood just how many conflicting emotions there were in doing something like this. Someone in my tribe who simply gets it. Rosie came to my book launch and snapped one of my favourite photos of me from that evening, so much so that I use it on my Amazon author bio. And this is what is so lovely about the widowed community. We have a myriad of stories and experiences as to how we ended up here, but the support we provide to one another is second to none. We cheer each other on.

That’s why in March 2026, I was able to reciprocate and attend the book launch of Rosie’s book, Widowed As F**K: A Guidebook for Grieving Your Partner. I had first-hand experience of all the emotions she would have been feeling on that day. There’s a word that’s used a lot in our community and really divides people, but it’s incredibly accurate for circumstances like this. Bittersweet. So proud of what we’ve managed to achieve. So devastated at what we’ve gone through to be in this position.

It’s taken me a few months to read Rosie’s book, but I recently took it on holiday with me. I read it in two sittings. It’s very different to my book in that it’s written as a guidebook for the bereaved and those supporting the bereaved. It tells Rosie’s story while interspersing it with examples from the podcast guests. Each of whom bring the various different elements to life. Sadmin. Complicated grief. Anger. Denial. Widow’s fire. I could go on, but I would no doubt be doing Widowed as F**k a disservice. I’d much rather that you went and read it yourself.

I tried to imagine reading this book in the early stages of my grief and bereavement. Because I found myself nodding along at so many moments. Smiling at situations that felt all too familiar. Welling up at the tough parts. Reading the COVID-19 chapter and thinking that poor family, before remembering that this was my family. I do that a lot when I read about us, it still feels surreal to think that this is our life and it really happened.

But I wondered if I could nod along and relate to it so well because I’m six years into this journey. Because I know from hosting the WAY New Member Zooms just how invaluable a book like this would be for those newer in. And this is by no means anything against the book, it’s more my world was so different because of when my husband died. I can’t help but suspect I’d have got annoyed at all the support others had been able to get and that is just so blinking valuable. I’d have been desperate for the world to open up so I could get everything I needed and give my daughter a shred of normality. I wonder whether I’d have put pressure on myself to get to some of the parts where you learn how to live again too quickly because I was so desperate for “normal.” I wonder whether I’d have found Widowed As F**k helpful or a hindrance if I’d read it early on.

And I know that Rosie won’t mind me being honest and saying this. Because she knows that everyone’s grief journey is different. And because of my lovely added layer of complexity with mine and the shut-down world with no real normal for anyone, my grief has been exceptionally complicated. Even the small things such as someone coming into my house and making me a cup of tea or being able to send my daughter to school and give her the routine she so desperately needed after her dad died weren’t an option for me. I almost felt a tinge of jealousy reading the book, as I do listening to the podcasts, about how different life would have been for us if my husband hadn’t died in a pandemic. To clarify. I am not jealous of anyone going through this experience. Every one of the stories that Rosie has shared, including her own, are heartbreaking. I wish there hadn’t been a need for either the podcast or the book.

But the simple fact is that there is a need. And in my opinion, there is there is a reason that the podcast won Gold for Best Interview (Interviewer of the Year) at the 2025 British Podcast Awards and the book became an Amazon bestseller so quickly. Both are so deserved. What Rosie has created is real. Her book is honest about grief and what this life is like. It doesn’t shy away from any elements. It gives helpful checklists for different stages of widowhood. And all of this is beyond helpful. I can’t help but feel if someone had bought this for me in the very early stages, I’d have looked at the checklists and saved the more difficult passages for later. I then would have no doubt bought copies for family and friends because when they asked how I was, I could have given it to them with two words “read this.” Because that’s what Widowed As F**k also helps with. Helping those who aren’t walking the widowhood path to understand a little of what it’s like. And that can only be a good thing.

Because the more open we are and the more stories that are shared, the more we help to break down the barriers of talking openly about death and bereavement. If you’ve never listened to an episode of the podcast, do yourself a favour and listen (it doesn’t have to be either of my episodes!). If you’ve ever wondered about appearing as a guest, do yourself a favour and apply, you won’t regret it because Rosie will put you completely at ease and your story might just land at a time that someone really needs to hear it. If you haven’t yet bought a copy of the book, do yourself a favour and buy one, I defy anyone not to find something in it that they can relate to.

And finally. I’m very fortunate that Rosie is now in my world. But it’s come at a very dear cost for both of us with the loss of two people.

Ben Moss. Stuart “Charlie” Charlesworth.

Two people who will be loved and missed forever. But I truly believe that as long as we tell their stories, speak their names and honour them by living, they are two people who will never be forgotten.

You can depend on me

Various photos taken across the Doin’ Fine Encore Tour

It’s been a year since my last blog about my Jason Donovan escapades. But 1 June is his birthday (and also Tom Holland’s before my daughter rolls her eyes at me for not mentioning). And while 2026 wasn’t quite as excessive as the Doin’ Fine 2025 Tour, this tour was just as special. Although it did highlight more than ever the North-South divide between the Posh Southerner and Northern Nutter.

We’ll start in February in Watford. Just over a year since the tour started in 2025 when we learnt just what a fab setlist it was. Although at the time we had no real inkling of just how much fun we were going to have over the following seven weeks. But back to 2026. Who knew that trying to get a Northerner out from Central London to Watford would be so tricky?! And before anyone tells me off for stereotyping or generalising, I’m really not. It’s just so blinking hilarious how different the two of us are. She moans about the tubes, the rudeness of Southerners, the constant rushing about of people in London and how hot and loud it is (we’ll come back to the pigeons later!)

But eventually she made it. And I went and collected her from the station. I’m good like that. But after we checked into the hotel and then sat down over a drink before heading out, I stopped. For the first time in months. I looked at her and said, “this is the first time I’ve stopped since Christmas.” To which she responded, “I thought you were going to say since 6am!” And this is the gift that being a Jason fan has given me this year. The gift of time. The gift of stopping.

You see from December onwards, life had been pretty full on. My daughter had sustained a knee injury (not great when you’re a performer), my nan’s house had been sold in mid-January and as a family we’d been having to empty the house to get it ready for sale, including multiple tip runs every weekend, I’d been having challenges regarding Nan’s care, I’d been working full time and all the usual aspects of being a widow and solo parent. At the end of January, life had been so overwhelming that I’d literally broken down in tears at work and needed to recalibrate. Just the week before the Jason concert in Watford plans had the potential to be thrown into disarray due to my daughter’s knee. So, even getting to Watford had felt like an achievement.

But as we sat there over a Bottomless Brunch at dinnertime (seriously, how can it be called a brunch in the evening?!) I stopped. I just relaxed. For the first time in nearly two months. We put the world to rights. We had random conversations. We had our standard photobooth photos. We had fun. And all this was ahead of the main man the following day.

Again, the following day, I relaxed. I sat in PJs for most of the morning and didn’t have to rush around. It’s a privilege that doesn’t happen often when you’re a solo parent. After I’d spent a lot of the day stressing and overthinking what I was going to wear, we then headed off for our Meet and Great ahead of our first night on Doin’ Fine 26 Encore Tour. We got there a little bit too early (another North-South divide) but somehow this meant we ended up first in the queue for the Meet and Greet. Seven-year-old me would be so excited at going in to meet Jason and hearing his tour manager say, “you obviously know Vicky and Emma.” Imagine that. Nearly forty years after decreeing I was going to marry him, this was how I was introduced. It was as fun as ever. He didn’t have his glasses so had to borrow Vicky’s. He jabbered on too much to get a sensible, smiley photo and then signed my memories of 2025. Whoever said don’t meet your idols definitely lied. That night Jason wore glasses that recorded footage of what he was seeing… and just a few days later that footage was live. For anyone who had ever wondered what a Posh Southerner and Northern Nutter look like at a Jason concert, now they could find out. My child said I looked special; I didn’t believe that this was a compliment. But what this video showed was me dancing and having fun like it was 1988. Relaxed, carefree Emma. Not juggling widow and solo parent Emma. Jason sings ‘You Can Depend On Me’ and I really can. I can depend on him to to make me forget about all my worries and stresses for an evening.

Just two weeks later, we did it all again. In Skegness. The intervening period had been standard for me. Tip runs, physio appointments for my daughter, working, juggling life and everything in-between. And we were now also in March. One of the two months of the year I find most difficult. And this year was proving just that tad more difficult. Because six years after a death means that everything falls on the same day it does when the death happens. In 2026, everything was hitting on the same days as in 2020. Plus my birthday at the end of March was one I felt that I was rapidly heading towards and didn’t want to happen. Because then I would turn the age my late husband was when he died.

As in 2025, being able to be seven years old and relieve memories of a time when I didn’t have a care in the world was so well timed. Skegness saw a spoon of truth, a visit to the Seal Sanctuary, relaxing in a hot tub, putting the world to rights and finding snacks that even spelt Jason Donovan! But as the two of us got ready for our Meet and Greet, I just couldn’t help but feel how lucky I was. My sister had once again travelled with me. My Northern Nutter and my adopted Mummy were there. The latter are only people in my life because of Jason.

Unlike Watford, we were the penultimate people to go into the Meet and Greet. Again, seven-year-old me had to pinch herself at getting this opportunity. I honestly do struggle to believe it at times. The banter, the chat, the selfies. It’s what I could only dream of in the 1980s. I know people think we’re mad. I know people question why we do it. And I guess we probably are on a level when it comes to Jason. But we all have our vices don’t we?!

And just a few days later, we had the final night on this tour. But this one was that little bit more special. Because this was the first time that my daughter had come with me to a Jason gig. Yes she’s done musicals before not never a gig. Although she made no attempt to hide the fact that she was only coming because my sister and the Northern Nutter were coming too. Once again, the North-South divide was evident. I had to travel across London to rescue said Northener from the pigeon that attacked her. Who knew they were so scary?! But unlike the previous two dates, I didn’t really switch off to begin with as I needed to make sure my daughter was sorted to get to us. And of course, life doesn’t go to plan. The train was running late, and then they changed the route so that she couldn’t get off at the station she needed to. Cue a rescue mission from my sister which meant that only then could I finally relax into my evening. As we went into the venue, I knew that any shred of credibility I might have built up over the years was about to disappear. In a flash. Because I knew that once my daughter saw me at a Jason concert, her opinion of me would no doubt change forever.

Yet for once in my life, I didn’t let my overthinking stop me being me. I danced as I usually do. Because I wanted to give her a little indication of me when I stop worrying about the world for a few hours and enjoy myself. I didn’t stop being me for fear of embarrassing her. I just knew I’d deal with the consequences. And she was as brutal as her father would have been had he ever come with me to a Jason concert. The response “yes” to the question “did I embarrass you?” said it all. But this response didn’t really bother me in the way it might have done once upon a time. It just meant that I’d been me and she’d been able to see a side to me that she hasn’t really seen before. And one she certainly didn’t see for a very long time because I was in survival mode.

Nights like that and weekends away like Watford and Skegness felt beyond unachievable in March 2020. I’d never have believe that six years later I’d be doing things like this. I felt that the world would be shut down forever and I would never have a normal again. I had no concept of when I might be able to smile or laugh again. The fact I’m able to and a lot of this has come down to Jason means so much to me. That my birthday gift from the northerner was the lyrics to Talk You Down, the song that became our song over the course of this tour means so much. Even if my late husband would be rolling his eyes at it all!

We’ve got one more Jason date lined up this year and then that’s it for 2026, unless of course someone would like to apply to take me to Australia to see him in One Flew Over the Cuckoo’s Nest. We then have nothing lined up for 2027…. yet!

However, as part of my aim to try to live a little more deliberately before I become older than my husband ever got to be, I’m hoping to weave Jason in somehow before January 2027. A suggestion was made by a fellow Jason fan that one of my moments should be a meet up with as many Jason fans as possible for a day out somewhere random and I love this idea. I’m yet to figure out how to make this work, or even if it’s possible, but it’s definitely something I want to try to do. I’ve already got one amazing friend as a result of being Jason fans, why not mark The Time In Between with many more?